2408.00143
Observability of complex systems via conserved quantities
Bhargav Karamched, Jack Schmidt, David Murrugarra
incompletemedium confidence
- Category
- math.DS
- Journal tier
- Specialist/Solid
- Processed
- Sep 28, 2025, 12:56 AM
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Audit review
The paper’s Theorem 4 claims that, given conserved quantities with an invertible ∂G/∂s and full-rank ∂G/∂r, there exists ĝ(r) making the system observable. Its proof invokes the implicit function theorem to assert a global s = ψ(r) (silently suppressing the dependence on the conserved value c) and then concludes injectivity of a differential embedding Φ̂ via a Jacobian product. This step is not justified: (i) the IFT only gives a local ψ on each invariant level set G = c; (ii) the paper equates observability with injectivity of a finite-order differential embedding without additional assumptions; and (iii) the rank argument cannot generally yield local injectivity unless extra dimensional/rank hypotheses are imposed. By contrast, the model’s solution provides a clean and correct local argument on an invariant level set: it uses s = Φ_c(r) from IFT, shows that g(s) and ĝ(r) coincide along trajectories on that leaf, and transfers observability by equality of output maps restricted to that set. Hence the paper’s proof is incomplete as stated, while the model’s local statement is correct.
Referee report (LaTeX)
\textbf{Recommendation:} major revisions \textbf{Journal Tier:} specialist/solid \textbf{Justification:} The manuscript’s central idea is useful and resonates with practical modeling: conserved quantities can guide the choice of observables. However, the main theorem’s proof is incomplete as written. It globalizes an implicit-function representation that is only leaf-local, and it asserts injectivity of a finite-order differential embedding without sufficient hypotheses, while the Jacobian product argument does not ensure injectivity in typical dimensions. The examples are well-motivated; with a corrected, leaf-local theorem and a proof based on equality of outputs on invariant leaves (or with added assumptions for a differential embedding), the work would solidify.